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Post by louannj59 on Feb 19, 2016 23:30:40 GMT
On a recent call where they used KED around pt. pelvic area for ? hip fracture. This worked very well to move the patient from the floor to the stretcher.
Does anyone else have any experience with the different uses of KED?
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Post by Brian Sweatman on Feb 22, 2016 19:11:30 GMT
I have seen them used as pedi boards and also as a hip immobilizer. I hear a lot about them being used as a hip immobilizer and people see good results. You would invert the KED, the body section of the KED around the pelvis and then the head section around the knee/calf area. I have never used it this way but hear a bunch with them used in this fashion.
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Post by toddc on Feb 23, 2016 11:41:57 GMT
I have also heard of them being used in this fashion. But, I have never personally tried it as a hip immobilizer. Probably a good exercise for medical folks so we can understand the different uses for the KED's and be proficient in them should the need arise. I think that the KED is also a tool that is under utilized in some cases. But, in the heat of battle, depending on the situation, they don't always get used when they should. I can think of instances when they should have been used but may have been "overlooked" for whatever reason.
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Post by jtstallone on Feb 29, 2016 1:42:23 GMT
I have not personally used a KED in the field before but I have heard of people using the KED for other uses other than for immobilization of a stable patient during vehicle extrication. Some of these uses were for immobilization of the pelvic area, immobilization of a pediatric patient, immobilizing a patient that experienced a long fall but had congested heart failure and was uncomfortable laying flat on a backboard.
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Post by jasontiffin on Mar 1, 2016 0:00:11 GMT
I have personally used a reverse "upside down" KED for hip fractures several times most of the older folks that we encounter due to this injury can be immobilized from the waist down and it works great. Pad under the "shortened and rotated" extremity for comfort and then us the torso section to secure the hips in place to not allow for further movement and possible increased internal injury from the broken hip. Finally, the part that would normally immobilize spine is used to immobilize the lower extremities as individuals love to try to move as we know. Then use the lifting straps to pick the Pt up and place them in a POC on the stretcher. Immobilizing them this way also allows you to sit the Pt up a little as well during transport.
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Post by medic8 on Mar 7, 2016 18:36:16 GMT
I HAVE ALWAYS VIEWED THE KED AS A VERY VERSATILE AND UNDER UTILIZED PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. OVER THE YEARS I HAVE SEEN IT EFFECTIVELY USED FOR EVERYTHING FROM A PEDIATRIC BACKBOARD AND PELVIC IMMOBILIZATION TO BEING USED TO HELP STABILIZE FRACTURED RIBS. WITH THE RECENT PROTOCOL CHANGES IN SPINAL IMMOBILIZATION I AM SURE WE WILL BE USING THEM MUCH MORE GOING FORWARD.
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Post by jimdale on Mar 9, 2016 19:29:02 GMT
The KED will certainly play a more important role in extrication since the new protocols went into effect. its a good tool to be used to help remove a pt. from vehical and then place on stretcher. then it can be loosen up for pt comfort if not needed for stabilization. pt movers are another good tool.
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Post by Matt W. on Mar 10, 2016 15:06:16 GMT
I have used it in the reverse fashion and have had great results with it. like they say when you go through class you learn what it is supposed to be used for then you develop street ways to use it for more than it was designed for.
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Post by marknicolettajr on Mar 10, 2016 20:39:22 GMT
The first time I went to a hip fracture call, I was very confused when my partner brought in the KED. It worked very effectively in this fashion and made it a lot easier for us to move the patient around. Like it was said earlier, it is one of those things that they don't teach you in class, but you learn in the streets and from experience
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Post by lisaj on Mar 13, 2016 20:12:55 GMT
I have used a KED for use during a MVA to assist in getting a patient out of the car but had never heard of or scene it used inverted for hip fractures! Sounds like an awesome idea! I may check it out on U-tube and ask around our area for some seasoned who have done this. Had No Idea the KED was so versatile!
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Post by Dennis R on Mar 16, 2016 18:56:41 GMT
I did this many years ago most emts would do this but it works great the emts u talk about must have been around for awhile havent seen it done in a long time
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