aldo
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Post by aldo on Feb 27, 2016 1:18:24 GMT
What are peoples opinion and thought on Ithacas Mayor for pushing a safe site for heroin users? Is this right or is this wrong?
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Post by davidkennett on Feb 27, 2016 3:03:37 GMT
I feel that this is 100% wrong. It will just encouraging more people to use and become addicted.
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Post by kathleenedgin on Feb 28, 2016 21:58:51 GMT
I feel that it may be taking a step backwards in that it will encourage continued. The only benefit that I could see if it was to be used as more of a detox/halfway house idea for those who really want to kick the habit.
Even with a safe place to shoot up, you aren't going to decrease the number of overdoses that we see everyday.
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Post by jtstallone on Feb 29, 2016 3:51:58 GMT
I don't think having a safe site for heroin users is a great idea, same goes with offering OTC Narcan at local pharmacies that lawmakers are trying to push for. This country is failing with the "War on Drugs" so instead of trying new ways in combatting drugs let's promote and encourage drug use.
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Post by jasontiffin on Feb 29, 2016 23:51:27 GMT
He's an idiot! Enough said!
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Post by bfrett on Mar 1, 2016 18:55:17 GMT
Interesting enough, there is increasing research on drug use that having safe places to dispense needles, and safe places to acquire needles if you are an addict, is actually very beneficial to controlling drug addiction and making it safer. The idea is that people are going to use drugs regardless of if it is safe, so there might as well be a push to give people clean needles. The idea seems similar to abortions. People are going to have abortions regardless of whether it is legal, so you might as well make it accessible and safe for mothers. Legalizing abortion does not encourage women to get abortions, a very common but misinformed view. Giving addicts who are going to shoot up regardless clean needles is not encouraging people to take heroin. Heroin is by no means being legalized or glorified. It is simply giving people who are already addicts a clean option. Think about it, what is the other option? Users using dirty needles and contracting diseases? Drug rehabilitation programs?
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Post by kategetman on Mar 1, 2016 22:00:38 GMT
Interesting enough, there is increasing research on drug use that having safe places to dispense needles, and safe places to acquire needles if you are an addict, is actually very beneficial to controlling drug addiction and making it safer. The idea is that people are going to use drugs regardless of if it is safe, so there might as well be a push to give people clean needles. The idea seems similar to abortions. People are going to have abortions regardless of whether it is legal, so you might as well make it accessible and safe for mothers. Legalizing abortion does not encourage women to get abortions, a very common but misinformed view. Giving addicts who are going to shoot up regardless clean needles is not encouraging people to take heroin. Heroin is by no means being legalized or glorified. It is simply giving people who are already addicts a clean option. Think about it, what is the other option? Users using dirty needles and contracting diseases? Drug rehabilitation programs? This is an excellent point. While the gut reaction of most of us is that his decision is wrong and promotes drug use, take the time to think about the alternative. Our own means of combating drug addiction are unsuccessful the majority of the time. There is a saying that goes, "doing the same thing you've always done, will get you the same thing you've always had." Something needs to change in the way that we look at drug addiction. I think people are upset at this decision because it puts a spotlight on those who use drugs and make them more visible. Without these safe clinics, drug addicts will continue to contract disease and will be further isolated. I can't say whether or not this approach will be successful, but it's worth a shot considering conventional rehab programs are not working. |
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Post by lisaj on Mar 6, 2016 18:24:12 GMT
I am concerned about the welfare of the individuals at the clinic where the heroin users go to shoot up. What if they are going there for more heroin from other users rather than just clean needles? And what about if a user becomes violent? Or if the user arrests and needs more than just nasal Narcan? I think that offering this would be opening "Pandora's Box" so to speak!!
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Post by joevfd on Mar 6, 2016 20:26:10 GMT
I really this is not helping the war on drugs its just a way to ignore the real problem. |
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Post by kaylawalker on Mar 7, 2016 2:59:50 GMT
I disagree with this 100%. I feel this will just enable people to use more because they can't get in trouble for it if they use there. This will be at the taxpayers expense and there are several other things that money can be used for that would benefit the city. I think we need we need to do something different than we currently are with the war on drugs but this is not the solution.
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Post by Mark Nell on Mar 7, 2016 16:47:38 GMT
To promote this activity and behavior is just wrong. You have to remember that the majority of these people using are involved in other criminal activity. Whether it's breaking into vehicles, rummaging thru cars looking for valuables to swap, or breaking into homes looking for items to sell. If these people are at this "safe house" in your neighborhood, where do you think they will go "looking" for things to steal. I know this isn't the case for all, but definitely the majority. And what happens when someone dies, because you know it Will happen, are they just going to roll the person out the front door on to the sidewalk and let someone else deal with it. They are not going to want any EMS/ or Law Enforcement in this place to investigate.
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Post by JEREMY WILLIAMS on Mar 7, 2016 18:17:49 GMT
WHILE A VALID POINT IS MADE IN SAYING THAT POSSIBLY SOME SPREAD OF DISEASE MAY BE PREVENTED THROUGH THIS PLAN, IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT THIS IS DANGEROUS AND ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. WHATS NEXT? DO WE USE PUBLIC FUNDING TO CLOSE DOWN A MAJOR ROADWAY TO LET DRUNK DRIVERS CRUISE AROUND IN A CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT? THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
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Post by timdodge on Mar 10, 2016 2:14:22 GMT
He is a young kid with some strange ideas. The heroin topic is a no win situation, no matter what you do the taxpayers will pay. Send them to a designated site we pay, send them to a addiction center we pay, call law enforcement we pay, send them to jail we pay. enough said
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Post by Brad Ano on Mar 10, 2016 14:58:05 GMT
This is idiotic in my opinion. While using the drug, possessing the drug is illegal. lets make a "safespot" so we can monitor people partaking in illegal activity.
further more, the law that prevents PD from making arrests when addicts call 911 is, in my opinion, dumb too. This all just further condones illegal activities...
People would rather dump money into heroin usage, making it "safe". then spending that money on... lets say taking care of VETS, Mentally ill, etc... |
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Post by marknicolettajr on Mar 10, 2016 20:15:24 GMT
I do not agree with this idea whatsoever. It is enabling an illegal and dangerous activity. Instead of combatting heroin usage, this is just encouraging it.
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