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Post by jasontiffin on Mar 1, 2016 0:15:19 GMT
So this is a fire and EMS question and may be answered either way as I have personally done both for my former FD and current EMS agencies. My question to you is when it comes to training, which do you prefer; Training internally or seeking training elsewhere or combining both? This question is driven from not only what trainings we have available to us but do we actually like training with fellow colleagues? I have seen people only see outside training as they feel that they learn more from them vs. individuals who believe in 100% in house training only as that increases your trust in your fellow members. Then I have seen some who have done both and then brought back the knowledge they learned elsewhere and shared it with there colleagues. Personally I am a believer in that the more training you can get the better but most of all we need to train extensively with our brothers and sisters of our own departments or ambulance corps as they are the ones who need to know you and your abilities the best. I will also add this question to the thread: What's your opinion on combined FIRE and EMS trainings? Do just FF's only need to understand some EMS stuff and do some EMT/Paramedics only need to understand fire stuff? |
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Post by bfrett on Mar 1, 2016 18:43:01 GMT
I firmly believe that training should include a mixture of internal and external training. As you mentioned in your post, the biggest plus of out of house training is that you can learn new skills and stay fresh and up to date on top of the line care. An issue with exclusively training in house is that I think people can grow complacent and stuck in their ways. However, going through training with those you will actually work with is obviously vital. Thus the combination seems most ideal. Interesting question about the combined EMS/Fire training. I have a tendency to think that the more transparency and teamwork between different medical providing agencies the better. I think that way patient care gets most prioritized and transfer of care is more seamless.
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Post by bfrett on Mar 1, 2016 18:48:41 GMT
Repost, not signed in the first time.
I firmly believe that training should include a mixture of internal and external training. As you mentioned in your post, the biggest plus of out of house training is that you can learn new skills and stay fresh and up to date on top of the line care. An issue with exclusively training in house is that I think people can grow complacent and stuck in their ways. However, going through training with those you will actually work with is obviously vital. Thus the combination seems most ideal. Interesting question about the combined EMS/Fire training. I have a tendency to think that the more transparency and teamwork between different medical providing agencies the better. I think that way patient care gets most prioritized and transfer of care is more seamless.
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Post by kathleenedgin on Mar 1, 2016 19:34:01 GMT
I prefer a combination of training. The internal training is good because you are training with your team and working with those who you will respond with. External training is good to be able to learn new skills, new techniques for skills you already know, and new information.
I think it is beneficial to have some level of cross-training. As an EMT with a FD, I spent a lot of my time watching the in-house trainings as I was not qualified as a firefighter. For me, watching the trainings and at times participating, when I could, allowed me to see some of the issues the firefighters dealt with and allowed me to be able to tailor rehab or my response to a situation to better provide support for the person in need.
At the same time, the personnel who were going to be responding to EMS calls had to sit through EMS related in-house trainings to allow for them to understand what their role in the response was, how they could help the EMT/Paramedics on scene, and even see some of the different skills that we, as EMTs,had in our arsenal. I remember holding a training on a new pulse-oximeter that the department had purchased. For the firefighters to see firsthand how the decvice worked, how beneficial it would be for calls involving CO2 and how it not only provided additional info to the responding Ambulance crew but also how it would allow for quicker action to be taken to get a patient the care they needed, provided a level of understanding that it wasn't just go in and locate the source of the CO2 leak but that it was also about how can all this info be used by the incoming ambulance and even the hospital.
I think that any time someone understands the other person's area of expertise, it not only brings a unit together cohesively, but it also allows for the other person to understand some of the challenges faced (i.e. Firefighters understand some of the EMS challenges and vice versa). I found that as a firefighter, I was better able to serve as an EMT on scene of a fire and assigned to triage/rehab, because I understood some of the challenges that the firefighters would be facing while fighting the fire.
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Post by katecardinali on Mar 4, 2016 4:19:55 GMT
I would say training wishing your department is extremely beneficial... but, when you go outside your department to further your education you see things from another person's style of teaching/perspective and have the opportunity to bring new things back to share, there may be a better way to do things....you can never stop learning.
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Post by jimdale on Mar 8, 2016 21:49:51 GMT
Training is training whether in house or out sourced. the only difference is good training or bad training. good professionals are good trainers, because they are well educated. but don't think there are not good educators right in your own core or fire house. every ounce of education whether its book learning or hands on is a valuable tool.
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