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Post by jimdale on Mar 9, 2016 19:46:22 GMT
why is there a vast turnover of ems workers in the job market? Is it burn out, low wages long hours needed to make a living or possibly something else? is this not a noble profession or calling? your opinon
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Post by timdodge on Mar 9, 2016 20:56:21 GMT
I am not in the career ems profession but I would say it's the salary. I think folks would enjoy the 24hr shifts
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Post by Mark Nell on Mar 10, 2016 15:42:42 GMT
I believe there are several reasons for this. I know of some people that have been involved for quite some time in EMS , and they have said that they are burned out. A huge factor in this also is the salary. I think when a lot of Members first join, they are younger, starting their careers and the salary is fine. As their career continues, they start families and in a lot of situations they realize it is tough to support a family. Another factor I believe is the area you are working. Around here the working conditions are pretty good. You could not pay me enough money to run the streets of Cornhill in Utica, or certain parts of Syracuse on a daily basis, always looking over your shoulder preparing for the worse.
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Post by durfeew on Mar 11, 2016 14:33:41 GMT
I agree that there may be a high turn over rate with employees because it is something fun, rewarding, and exciting to get into when you are young, but when you get older and settle down with a family I can imagine that the 24 hour shifts can be tough when you aren't there to see your kids. Also, I can imagine that it would be hard to own a house and raise kids on the salaries in EMS, possibly also leading to them getting into another profession. Perhaps if legislation were put in place to cut down on those who abuse the system, increase reimbursements for ambulances, and perhaps increase the education requirements for EMS by perhaps requiring an associates or bachelors degree as they are doing with RN's, that may help increase salaries.
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Post by kaylawalker on Mar 15, 2016 1:30:52 GMT
I think it is a combination of of both but the salary is a big part of it. I have talked to several people that would like to do EMS as a profession but complain about the salary and say they are better off going to school for nursing because they will make more money.
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Post by davidkennett on Mar 15, 2016 4:26:22 GMT
I would say burn out from working so much just to make a living because of the low wages
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Post by kathleenedgin on Mar 15, 2016 20:51:02 GMT
I think it is a combination of low wages and burnout due to working many hours with a couple of different agencies.
I know of Paramedics, especially, who work with 2 or more agencies just to make a decent wage.
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Post by rod on Mar 16, 2016 0:30:18 GMT
it is definitely the wages and long hours that lead to burnout I do believe the young get into the field because of the excitement of the calls and they work a lot of hours because of this
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Post by Dennis R on Mar 16, 2016 18:29:54 GMT
I worked on a ambulance twenty or years ago there was no money in then unless you worked ungodly hours back then you got paid so much per shift and so much per call depending on the treatment given most nights we had one on duty know there could be two or three more power to you who are making a living doing this
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Post by smahoney on Mar 18, 2016 3:01:19 GMT
raise the pay is a huge issue. how do you get someone to be completely satisfied with doing this extremely stressful, high skill required job and pay them barely above minimum wage?  you have to love this to do it ! you have to feel respected and appreciated. Also, perhaps more formal education for basic knowledge such as anatomy and such may help people understand the full effects of what they do. I mean requiring all levels to have a basic anatomy type class to better prepare them. More clinical time is also needed on at least the Basic level. |
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Post by medic8 on Mar 20, 2016 1:48:00 GMT
EMS needs standardized certification or liscencure as well as protocols, all at a national level. Then possibly we could see more defined levels of pay as one state could use the next as the market standard. Today there are so many differences from region to region, much less state to state, that its hard to evaluate the market value of an ems provider as their job description could be different fifty miles away than it is here.
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you have to love this to do it ! you have to feel respected and appreciated.